Craps In Macau

  
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  1. For anyone interested, here's an update on craps availability in Macau as of June 2017: MGM Macau - 200hkd (thursday afternoon) minimum MGM bubble craps - 50hkd min Wynn Macau - none.
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Hello from Bangkok. Planning a long weekend in Macau but I only play craps.
Good current information is not easily found on the 'web' or elsewhere. The game isn't Asian and not much in the way of information. The casino's in Cambodia don't have craps.
I'd like to simply confirm there is at least five times odds on the pass/don't pass line and that the place bets are at fair(Las Vegas) odds i.e. place $30.usd on the six, get $35 if you win.
We are staying in a nice hotel (Lisboa) but I have no idea about the Las Vegas style of comps, especially food buffets, anyone have experience with this?
Thanks in advance, I don't see a forum on Macau itself, only some dated information. Nok

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Everything I have to say about craps in Macau is found here.
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EvenBob

Hello from Bangkok.


Bangkok. Do you ever really get used to the humidity there? Everytime
I see a movie made there, everybody is always sweating all the time.
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NokTang
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Bangkok. Do you ever really get used to the humidity there? Everytime
I see a movie made there, everybody is always sweating all the time.


You get used to taking a shower every time you get home. It's not as bad as it looks since we have AC. I'm not Thai, I come from Atlanta. I'd honestly say the heat in central Georgia or central Florida is worse in the summers. The British are what takes getting used to as they don't shower. Nok
NokTang

Everything I have to say about craps in Macau is found here.


I saw that prior to posting, thanks. A friend told me the newish Wynn had one or two games. I'm sure the pass line is okay with single or double odds but don't know about the place bets on the numbers. The chairs shown in the photo are a nice touch, no reason to stand up when you can sit in a nice chair I suppose. Off topic, I read that the Horseshoe downtown LV doesn't have rooms? What's the deal with that and is the steakhouse still open and the craps still 100times on a $1.usd wager in Binions? Thanks. Nok
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Everything I have to say about craps in Macau is found here.


CrapsOff topic, I read that the Horseshoe downtown LV doesn't have rooms? What's the deal with that and is the steakhouse still open and the craps still 100times on a $1.usd wager in Binions? Thanks. Nok
You read correctly. You can't stay there, but the joint is now owned by the same guy that runs the Four Queens across the street, so they are encouraging folks to stay there.
The steakhouse is still open (and still serving a killer lobster bisque).
Craps dropped the 100x odds/$1 min. many years ago. Last time I played there, it was 10x/$5 min.
Have fun in Macau. Take some snaps, and write up a report on your visit.
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7outlineaway
Hope I'm not posing this too late, as it's past midnight Saturday there.
I visited Macau last November. I played craps at every casino where I could find a craps table. This included the Sands, MGM, Wynn, the new Lisboa and the smaller place across the street from Wynn/MGM (forget the name). Several larger casinos, such as the old Lisboa and the property closest to (and across the street from) the ferry terminal do not have craps. The casinos that do have craps only have one or two tables, often tucked away (Lisboa).
The mechanics of the game are generally the same as in the US. Everything is in English and dealers know and use all the usual jargon. Most places were 345x odds; although one place may have been 10x nothing was lower. Minimums are HKD$50-100, pretty reasonable considering what baccarat runs. It is common for Asian players to bet only when they or their friends are shooting.
As the Wizard wrote previously, everything in Macau runs on Hong Kong dollars, to the extent that many casinos refuse to deal in patacas. The USD/HKD rates at the cages are quite reasonable, or you can just use ATMs (which should dispense HKD by default), or if you want to exchange baht for HKD you can probably find good rates in Bangkok. What you want to avoid are (1) double exchanges (THB --> USD --> HKD), (2) booths at airports or the ferry pier and (3) ever holding a pataca.
Most of the bigger casinos run free shuttles to and from the ferry pier. You can get around by walking, though, and the strategy I fell into was to gradually go further away from the pier until I got to the Lisboa, then take their shuttle back. The upper level of the pier building has lockers which will hold large backpacks for $20/day as I recall.
pacomartin

Off topic, I read that the Horseshoe downtown LV doesn't have rooms? What's the deal with that and is the steakhouse still open and the craps still 100times on a $1.usd wager in Binions? Thanks. Nok


The Horseshoe has not legally been allowed to use that name since 2004. It's just Binion's now. The hotel has been closed for well over a year, but as stated earlier you can stay at the Four Queens (same ownership now). Nobody has 100X with $1 minimum anymore. Sometimes Binions does 5X with $1 minimum at 3:00 AM, but even that is rare. The best bet downtown is 20X with $5 minimum at Main Street.
7outlineaway

The Horseshoe has not legally been allowed to use that name since 2004. It's just Binion's now.


But the sign still says Horseshoe and has a tessealtion of H's, right?
teddys

But the sign still says Horseshoe and has a tessealtion of H's, right?

The last time I was there there was no 'H,' Horseshoe, or anything shoe or horse related. Just Binion's.
You do not want to run afoul of Caesars' trademark lawyers.
'Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe.' -Rig Veda 10.34.4
By Chuckmonster on Sun 16 Sep 2007 11:33am
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Atltrainman posted a comment to the MGM Grand Macau story that got me thinking a little bit. I started to post a response comment, but realized that my thoughts are a little larger than the comment format.

Craps In Macau

Atltrainman says:
'I can't believe that they don't have any Craps tables there. Is it because the dealers would have to do a lot of extreme math or is it because the odds aren't overwhelmingly in the Casino's favor?'

That's a great question. I'm not sure if either of those options is completely correct though. As you probably know, Baccarat is THE game in Macau and it has a very very low house advantage - a fraction over 1%. Sic Bo, another very popular game, has a house advantage of just under 2.8% on the basic 'High' or 'Low' bets. Roulette, which is less popular here than blackjack, has high house advantage - a little less than 5.3%. Slot Machines, which are pretty much an after thought in Macau's casinos have the highest house advantage of them all.

You'd think that the casinos would push the games with the highest house advantage. It would be a helluva lot more profitable to yank out some 1% house advantage table space and replace it with a 5% game. For whatever reason that's not the case in Macau. Baccarat is relatively easy to learn (but not to deal) and there are only three bets - Player, Banker or Tie. Compared to craps, baccarat has virtually no learning curve. Anyone who has ever tried to teach craps to noobs knows how hard it is to get the student to make the Come Out, Point, Seven Out hurdle, not to mention Come bets, odds behind the passline, Odds on your Come, parleys, buys, hardways, C&E, Field, Hop, Big 6 & 8 and so on.

Could craps' absence in Macau be caused by the lack of skilled dealers? Doubtful. Craps is surely the most difficult game to deal in the casino, the bets are multilayered, the rules, process, layout, etiquette and math is extremely complex - even nuts! Taking all that into account, I doubt that hiring people with good math skills and the patience and perserverance to learn a complex game inside and out is an obstacle. If there were demand, there would be dealer supply. There isn't any poker here either, more because of the lack of demand than anything else.

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My best guess as to why craps isn't represented in Macau is probably because the game has never been effectively imported here. I'm sure if Wynn Macau installed a craps table, there would be players, the clientele is more than the Chinese. Older gambling joints like Casino Lisboa, Diamond, Waldo, Kem Pek, Golden Dragon, President, Pharaoh's Palace and all of the other casinos on the north side of Avenida de Amizade (to a lesser degree Grand Lisboa) have been catering to hardcore Chinese gamblers for 40 plus years. This slice of clientele comes to Macau to gamble with a capital GAMBLE. It's the Wynn's, Venetian's, MGM's, Galaxy's and Crown's who are aiming to transform it from gambling halls to casino resorts. You'll still get to play all the baccarat you like, but you'll also get to shop for a Gucci bag, taste couture cuisine, watch French-Canadian acrobats, have your face and ass caked in holistic mud therapy, go see a major headlining entertainer and maybe play a round or two of golf as well. When the folks who like to do that stuff equally or more than spend hours playing baccarat start coming to Macau, craps and other global casino games will begin to filter into Macau's casinos. But for now, craps, like poker, is still somewhat of an American game that has never had its opportunity here.

Another possibly plausible reason why craps hasn't caught on here is that Chinese gamblers are more interested in challenging luck and fortune than leveraging mathematics. Gamblers here fastidiously take notes on the outcome of each Sic Bo throw, Roulette spin and Bacarrat hand thinking that if one tracks the past, one will be able to gain insight into trends of luck, and will be fortunate.

What they don't know, or do know and don't care to accept, is that these games have absolutely nothing to do with history. Blackjack is the only game where historical knowledge (counting or tracking cards) can be used to gain an advantage. With Roulette, Sic Bo, Baccarat and something as simple as flipping a coin, the odds of a given outcome are the same for each hand regardless of what has happened before.

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It could be Craps' complexity, lack of opportunity, lack of skilled trained workforce or psychologically incongruous to the current psychology of the Asian gambler. Most likely a combination of all.

Craps In Macau

No matter how you toss the dice, there ain't no craps tables in this town and that hella sucks.